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Bought the Better Sweater Jacket since I wanted something I can easily slip in and out of due to the full-length zip. I have two older pullovers, which I love. The Nouveau Green is the perfect shade of green! My only gripe is with the cuff opening. It's awkwardly large leaving the sleeves to slip down past the wrists and over my hands. (In cas... Read Moree you're wondering, my wrists and hands aren't tiny or puppet-sized.) The cuffs on my pullovers are just how they should be, just snug enough to stay put. Other than that minor annoyance, this jacket is awesome.
It looks good, but its tight.
In almost everything I purchase, I buy it in the medium size. But I bought one of your raincoats in a medium, and I drown in it. So this jacket I bought in a small, but it is tighter than I expected. And your catalog always shows a 6,1In almost everything I purchase, I buy it in the medium size. But I bought one of your raincoats in a medium, and I... Read More drown in it. So this jacket I bought in a small, but it is tighter than I expected. And your catalog always shows a 6-1 model wearing your jackets, But I am 5-8. And if I were to purchase a medium in this jacket, it would be way too long. you have great quality, I just wish the sizes were a little easier to work with.
Hey Bruce, thanks for the review and our apologies for the confusion with sizing. All of our products come in different fits: form-fitting, slim, regular and relaxed; so that could be adding to the confusion. If you check on the fit tab on the product page, you can find this information. We're not sure which raincoat you purchased, but this jacket has a regular fit. If you ever have questions about size, please connect with customer service. We're happy to help, and we can provide you with garment measurements. If you ever make a mistake, we do offer free and easy exchanges which could be started on [this page](https://www.patagonia.com/returns.html).
Great jacket, good warmth, great color selection!
So everybody knows this jacket. I use it when I need several layers, or when around a campfire at night and it gets chilly. Or when I go for a quick walk with my dog! The breast pocket is a nice added bonus, it is quite large and very functional! this is like my 7th review so far, would it be possible to get a friends and family coupon so I could ... Read Moreget some more stuff that I need for the upcoming winter season and then I'll post more reviews??? Thanks muchly!!
Runs smaller than they used to.
What can you say about the Better Sweater? It's an amazingly well-made and functional addition to shoulder season outerwear and winter indoor wear. I first bought two of these in 2020, and am only now updating mostly because I noticed the blue is available and felt like spending some money. Two observations — either they used to run large, or ... Read Morethey now run smaller. The previous Better Sweaters I bought three years ago were medium and fit perfectly. This time the medium was too large so I returned it for a small that fit perfectly. The other observation is that the fabric of the sweater itself is thinner than it used to be so the look is less bulky and more fitted now. So if you're borderline S and M, consider an S. If I had to buy one sweater for the rest of my life, this would be it.
My favorite sweater
I think in a way, we are all looking for that one perfect sweater that we just feel attached to. If that is you, my friend your search has come to an end. I love this for work. The office is always cold, so Im always in my sweater. Love the fit. Have the vest, and the 1/4 zip as well. I wear the 1/4 around the house and this one is more for out of ... Read Morethe house.
Theres no English washing instructions. Pretty sure its required. Lmk if you need a new product manager.
Hello Neil, thank you so much for taking the time to write this review. Since we sell items internationally and to minimize the size of the care tag with various translations, we use the Federal Trade Commission care guide symbols. Our [product care symbol guide](https://www.patagonia.com/on/demandware.static/-/Library-Sites-PatagoniaShared/default/dw4550ef83/PDF-US/carecard.pdf) will explain everything – and help you keep your gear in great shape. With that said, when it comes to washing your Better Sweater, we would recommend washing in cool water with light detergent and then tumble dry on low-to-no heat. We would also recommend drying this item alone to avoid any pilling from occurring.
A great versatile zip-up!
This is my third better sweater of various models. I got this one from a generous offer at the Patagonia Store because they were far backed up on zipper replacements for my old one! One note of caution...Patagonia has apparently made their new Medium from the Large template. I ordered a Large, the same as my old one and it was about 2 inches too ... Read Morelong in the sleeves and was big all around. The medium fits perfectly. I have lost weight, admittedly, but I don't think my arms shrank. The sales clerk at the store confessed that there are several lines of clothing that do not size the same as the old ones.
Fits 3x too large compared to previous versions
I've owned many versions of this jacket and have always been an XS. It seems Patagonia has increased their XS to a Medium now and is much too large everywhere.
Thank you so much for writing this review Chris! Your feedback is incredibly important to us and we are very sorry to hear about the sizing and fit issues you encountered. Please know that your satisfaction is always guaranteed so you are more than welcome to [return](https://www.patagonia.com/returns.html) at any time.
Comfortable, warm casual wear
So far, I love the feel of the Better Sweater. It keeps me warm on cool days, but it still breathes a bit to keep me from overheating. My body size landed between a small and medium. I ultimately opted for a medium, as I wanted something a bit more comfortable rather than form fitting. I also feared that even a little bit of shrinking would make a ... Read Moresmall uncomfortable.
Better Sweater - best made jacket !!
I ordered a small based on other reviews. First, I am 5'7" on a good day and under 150 lbs. Here is what I discovered. The sleeve length is longer than what I expected. The sleeves and body of the jacket are somewhat form fitting with a T-shirt and another long sleeve shirt as base layers. There are unexpected wonderful features such as ... Read Morethe soft warm interior lining of the pockets and neck lining. The pockets appear to be set in a bit but make it convenient for my hands. Since I couldn't add a vest under the jacket, I was almost going to return it for a medium; but I am sitting here sending in this review wearing my first Patagonia garment and am pleasantly pleased with this purchase. I look forward to more purchases.
Really Great Sweater Jacket
The XL size is a touch bigger than some, but I dont like my sweaters to be tight so this is perfect. Im about 225-230 and 6 foot tall. This is great for work and when the weather is chilly out but not cold. Doesnt do a great job of blocking wind, but thats not why I bought it.
SUPER WARM, SUPER COMFY AT THE RIGHT PRICE
GREAT SUPER WARM & SUPER COMFY JACKET. GREAT PRICE TOO. EVERYTHING ABOUT IT IS SUPER NICE. 4 of the 8 of us HAVE OVER 15 SUCH JACKETS BETWEEN US. WE ALWAYS BUY JUST THIS MODEL ONLY. TO PATAGONIA :: IF YOU WANNA MAKE ANY CHANGES, DO SO AS A DIFFERENT MODEL, AND DO NOT MAKE ANY CHANGES IN THIS PARTICULAR MODEL.
Inconsistent bad sizing
Originally got this in a medium and the collar was tight even when not fully zipped, but rest of the fit was good and it looked good. Returned and tried large, but it was way too baggy and arm length was rather long. Just in general looked unflattering with how baggy it was. Went back for a medium and while the collar was fine. The armholes wer... Read Moree very off that they were digging into my armpits even unzipped. Just going have to unfortunately return this and be done with it as playing return tag for sizing issue isn't fun. I will say it looks quite good, I got the Stonewash color and had it fit well it's clearly a nice design and color with a preppy vibe from the popped collar which covers the back of the neck. However, should note it's very much not wind resistant or solid as I could feel the breeze in the jacket while fully zipped.
Hi Richard! Thank you for taking the time to write us a review. We're really sorry to hear about the disapointment with the fit. Feedback like this is crucial to improving products for future seasons so we'll share this with our design team. Your satisfaction is always guaranteed so you're welcome to [return](https://www.patagonia.com/returns.html).
Runs a little big
I've always had the fleece, but I love this piece. Ended up buying a 2nd one and wear it to work as a nurse, a lot! Initially got the L size, but found it was just too big, much happier with a Medium-so I think it runs slightly large. Can't say enough good things about the quality, warmth and ease of use!
Dissapointed with how much it shrunk.
This jacket was initially comfortable and a great fit, but unfortunately became too tight after the first wash. In hindsight, I would have preferred to purchase a size larger knowing it would shrink.
We're sorry to hear your jacket has shrunk! That shouldn't happen when washing in cold water. In any case, we want you to be happy with all of your Patagonia gear, so we'll be happy to help you [return](https://www.patagonia.com/returns.html) it under our warranty.
Ive never run across anything better than these better sweaters for warmth vs bulk. Great material, great feel. I wear them all the time on cool days in the SoCal winter. The only issue for me is the fit-I am 5 ft 8 in, 150 lbs, and the S is a bit too small and the M is just a bit too big. But I wear them both happily.
Perfect for those with dodgy heating
I'm wearing it as I type (it's one of those evenings when the temperature has fallen too quickly for the radiators to keep up). The shell has a sweater knit, while the interior is comfy fleece. Works great outdoors on a cool day, or layered under a barn coat.
Love the jacket but it pills
I love the jacket, it's stylish and very warm and cool looking but because it pills I don't wear it out which is very disappointing. Other than the pilling problem I would highly recommend it.
Thank you so much for taking the time to write this review and we are very sorry to hear about the pilling issue you have encountered. If you would like to prevent further pilling, we recommend washing your item either by hand in cool to cold water, or separately in your washing machine on the gentle cycle. It's best to lay it flat to dry rather than place it in the dryer where the fabric can easily get abraded. To remove pilling that has already occurred, a sweater shaver or sweater stone is an excellent tool and can help the garment look brand new again. If you notice that the issue continues, please know that you are more than welcome to [return](https://www.patagonia.com/returns.html) the product back to us at any time.
Husband's new favorite jacket
I gave this jacket to my husband as a Christmas gift and he wears it almost every day. It is cold outside so he's layering it under his new Patagonia Down Sweater (also a Christmas gift he loves and wears constantly). Come spring it will be perfect to wear by itself. Note - we ended up exchanging the large for a medium and it fits perfectly. T... Read Morehis has a great slim fit.
This is the first Patagonia item Ive bought and I have to say Im really disappointed with it. I expected it to be of superior quality for the money I paid and it falls real short. The zipper is poor quality and is wavy, not straight. I was hoping for a much nicer jacket.
Thank you so much for taking the time to write this review and we are very sorry to hear about the issues you've encountered with this product. Based off of this review, it seems your sweater may be defective as this jacket should not have a wavy zipper. We have gone ahead and sent you an email to help get this resolved for you.
I never give feedback, but thought I'd let your company know that your designers are terrible. Not everyone who wears a large is 6'5. Sleeves and overall length are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too long. Do you understand?
Thank you for this feedback on the proportions of our larger sizes, Nick. You're correct that as our sizes go up, the sleeves also tend to be longer. We appreciate your input, and we are sharing this with our designers. In the meantime, thank you for returning a jacket that wasn't going to work for you. We'll be happy to help you pick out an alternative, and our Customer Service Team can definitely provide more detailed fit information, including sleeve length, collar rise, sweep, etc.
My first experience with "sweater
My first experience with "sweater fleece". It has a knitted look (more formal or dressier appearance, more like a wool jacket) compared with traditional fleece which has no grain. The grain in this jacket is vertical ... which is better, aesthetically, than if it was horizontal. It's denser and firmer (stiffer but not uncomfortably s... Read Moreo) than regular fleece, and seems to have equal insulation value to traditional (unknitted) 200 gm fleece. I think the density makes this jacket comparatively more wind, water and weatherproof than unknitted fleece. I think the density makes the knitted fleece more windproof so I can go longer without putting on a top layer in the wind. And holds in the heat better when I rest. The knitted surface does not have the outside fabric "coziness" of traditional fleece but the inside has a warm feel and the pocket lining material is comparatively superior in warmth and feel and doesn't catch on rough skin and frayed fingernails, rings and watches when you stick your hands inside. There are 3 regular exterior pockets and 1 interior open breast pocket. I think the pocket system (location, number, their significant volume, and importantly, the zips) are optimum for function, capacity and security (my cell phone, key fob and wallet do not fall out when I am active). That was one main reason I landed on the Patagonia jacket in the first place: the pocket system. The other reasons I prefer this jacket are: the raised collar with the main zip to the top so it acts like a scarf without the bulkiness of a scraf (and this collar looks better too), and it doesn't interfere with over layers like fold-over collars do). Then there is the length of the jacket. Too many fleece underlayer jackets stop too high on the back .... just where you need the jacket to cover your lower back in the cold. This Patagonia design has a longer body that covers the areas which normally become exposed when active, or when bending over, or sitting in a boat, a plane or the back of a pick-up, or reaching when climbing and lifting. The one thing I would do to improve this jacket is a two-way, up-and-down zipper, so it can be left open at the bottom and zipped in either direction. That would improve body temp control adjustment flexibility, and cool-down options, depending on conditions and activities.
Makes me teary eyed.
This is one of the best sweaters I have ever owned. And to find out that it was available in my size made me feel so included. I rarely am able to find clothing of this quality in my size and I am so happy I have found a company that does. The sweater itself is super warm and looks amazing on me. Will definitely buy again. Patagonia definitely earn... Read Moreed a loyal customer.
Now running too large
I have owned a few of these in different styles and have liked them. However, they are now running much larger than they used too, about an inch and a half longer on the sleeve, longer and fuller in the body. I am 5 foot 10 and have always worn size medium in Patagonia until now. I am a solid medium in literally every other brand. Check the 6 foot ... Read More1 model wearing the better sweater on the Patagonia site, it looks large on him. Really disappointing, ive enjoyed Patagonia for years and now they do not have a size that fits me.
Hi Terry! Thank you for taking the time to share this feedback. We're really sorry to hear that size medium wasn't the right fit for you as it usually is. We rely on feedback like this to improve products for future seasons so we'll share this with our design team. Your satisfaction is always guaranteed so you're welcome to [return](https://www.patagonia.com/returns.html).
Nice warm jacket but pills too easily
Overall a good everyday jacket. However pilling is a big issue. I have two of these jackets and both have pilling after a few months. Normal machine wash and separated from other garments.
Hi Fangao, like all fleeces, the Better Sweater has a tendency to pill. Due to the knit appearance of the face fabric of this particular item, this pilling can be more noticeable. To prevent pilling, we recommend washing that item either by hand in cool to cold water, or separately in your washing machine on the gentle cycle. It's best to lay it flat to dry rather than place it in the dryer where the fabric can easily get abraded. To remove pilling that has already occurred, a sweater shaver or sweater stone is an excellent tool and can help the garment look brand new again. Of course, if you are not pleased with the performance of your fleece, you are absolutely welcome to send it in for a [warranty returns evaluation](https://www.patagonia.com/returns.html) under our Ironclad Guarantee.
This sweater is a solid work or causal piece. It works as a uniform for EMT work and is super warm for not being too heavy. Out of most sweaters I own this one is the thickest and warmest. Great for low output warmth, I dont know if I would recommend for any sort of hiking or running, but when you decided to stop, throw this on and youll be nice an... Read Mored toasty.
Sizing is off
I am a tried and true M with Patagonia going on 3 decades. Sleeves on this were extremely long---like 4" too long. Overall length is also several inches too long. Just a bizarre cut. Would exchange it but am overseas and it's just way too inconvenient to do so.
Thank you so much for taking the time to write this review and we are very sorry to hear this did not work out. Please know you are more than welcome to hold onto this product and once you return from overseas, our [Customer Service Team](https://help.patagonia.com/s/?_gl=1*1w1ig81*_ga*MTQ5ODEyNDA3OS4xNjUyMjExNDc2*_ga_1SYPSJZYJ5*MTY3MzYyNzQ3NC4zMTguMS4xNjczNjI3NDgxLjAuMC4w) would be more than happy to help with getting you into the correct fitting jacket.
Home Run Gift
I gave this sweater to my son as a Christmas gift, after getting a thumbs from his wife who also gave me his size and the best color. My son is a cardiologist at Johns Hopkins and rides a bike to work. He and his wife also hike. My son immediately put his sweater on after tearing off the wrapping, and wore the rest of the day and home on the plane.... Read More This sweater was a huge home run as a gift! And we all like the Patagonia mission.
Pills too easily
This is the second time I've purchased this product. It looks great and fits well, but a serious liability is that within a month or so it starts to pill, eventually making it looking pretty ratty. I otherwise LOVE Patagonia products, but won't be purchasing this again.
Thank you for sharing this review, Richard. We're sorry you've been disappointed about the pilling that has happened with your jackets. While some pilling with this fleece is bound to happen many customers find sweater shavers work well to remove the excess. Please let us know if we can be of any help!
No so warm
The sweater/jacket is well made and the fit is excellent. It is warm under stagnate conditions, however if there is the slightest breeze the sweater offers little protection. The winter temperatures my area range 50 to 70. The sweater/jacket looks nice but I am disappointed it does not offer more protection from the cold.
Hey Barry, thanks for the review. We're sorry to hear that it's not working out with the Better Sweater Fleece Jacket. This particular fleece is not windproof, but we do have some windproof options if you're interested in alternatives. We recommend checking out the [Men's Classic Retro-X Fleece Jacket](https://www.patagonia.com/product/mens-classic-retro-x-fleece-jacket/23056.html?dwvar_23056_color=NEWA&cgid=mens-fleece).
Nice, comfortable sweater.
I really enjoy this sweater. It's comfortable, and casual while looking nice enough to wear to slightly more formal occasions. I weight around 180lbs, so originally I purchased a medium, however it was too long in the arms and baggy on the trunk. I returned it for a small, with a very quick return time by Patagonia. The small certainly looks b... Read Moreetter, it does not leave much room for thicker clothing underneath. Highly recommend though.
After I bought the jacket
After I bought the jacket I was thinking maybe It was too long, but now that Im wearing it almost everyday Ive come to realize that being long is not a bad thing it keeps me warm. Many pockets means a lot of storage another plus if you need it and with hiking you will find that there is enough storage space that you wont need a backpack as much as ... Read Morewith out the jacket
Warm and Cozy - return if the size is wrong
Truly love the Better Sweater - have to dock 1 star due to inconsistent sizing. The arms were a little large, and the waist was like a huge hoop. I thought the design had changed and was very disappointed. However, I had ordered two sweaters and the other color was the size expected (both were L) I sent back and the replacement was the right s... Read Moreize. At the moment one out of three of my Patagonia orders are sized differently. Its a hassle, if it doesn't fit replace!
We're sorry to hear you found inconsistent sizing with the same style and recommend that you reach out to our [Customer Service](https://help.patagonia.com/s/) team, as we'll be happy to help you with a return or exchange or offer any specific measurements or an alternative style you may not have noticed on our site. Thanks for taking a moment to review, Colin!
Excellent Warmth to Weight ratio
The Patagonia Better Sweater provides an incredible warmth to weight ratio meaning it is very light yet super warm. For addition warmth, add a shell over the top of it and you are good to go for additional colder weather. Makes for a great travel piece. Wears like iron. Highly recommended.
Sleeves too long and cuff does not help
The sleeves are simply too long that forced me to go a size down. Medium would be much more comfortable for me but choosing that means the cuff would end pass the tip of my fingers. The cuff should be redesigned to accommodate people with shorter arms but rounder body. Not recommended for shorter guys with a bit of a round belly.
We're sorry to hear the fit isn't quite right on this one. Our Better Sweater fleece material doesn't have much stretch at all, so we recommend taking a look at one of our other [Men's Fleece Jackets](https://www.patagonia.com/shop/mens-fleece) like our Reclaimed Fleece Jacket, Shearling Jacket, Micro D Jacket, Synchilla Jacket or Synchilla Cardigan. Please don't hesitate to reach out to our Customer Service or your local store for a return. Thanks for the review!
Great Sweater for Tall Person
It's really a great sweater. It looks great and it's got great pockets. The fit is good for me as a tall person, meaning the sleeves are long enough and the torso length aligns slightly below my belt. It's very warm, and yet simultaneously breathable, making it great for cold weather hiking, as it traps just enough heat to stay warm ... Read Morebut not so much I'm roasting after warming up. Maybe one word of warning is that it does shrink after washing, so account for that as you try it on. I felt like before washing the Large was a little big around my chest, but since washing it, it's shrunk slightly to be a very comfortable and nice-looking fit.
Green larger than Stonewash
I bought a stonewash medium in the store that fits perfectly. Bought the Industrial Green online and it's bigger. I laid them out on the floor and the green has longer arms and body height. Fits bigger. Going to order Medium to see if it fits bette, but maybe this is an online US vs in-store Canada issue. Stornewash color is also thicker fabri... Read Morec.
Hey Ryan, thank you for the review. Regardless of where the jacket is purchased, the measurements should be the same if it's the same item and the same size. This sounds like it could potentially be a quality control issue, so we've emailed you to gather more information. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. If something like this comes up in the future, please connect directly with our [customer service team](https://help.patagonia.com/s/).
This sweater is amazingly soft and warm - get one
This was my first Patagonia product. It is so comfortable that I do not want to take it off. The pigeon blue color looks awesome, too, and I'm glad that I chose it. After purchasing this sweater, one other sweater, and a jacket, I can say that the quality of Patagonia's products is amazing.
This is now a part of me
I tested the waters with the Better Sweater vest. Just in case. Soon I thought "I like this vest a lot, way too much, I should try the jacket". My world has been flipped upside down. The lining, the warmth, the fit, the versatility, and it just plain looks really, really good. It feels like you're wearing something with some weight t... Read Moreo it, but for these Canadian Fall weather days, I am super impressed at how well it regulates the heat. No scratchy sections, great zippers, lining, everything. Highly recommended if you can swing it!
Not like the previous products
I own 3-4 of the fleece sweaters and they're very warm. This new version unfortunately isn't. They must have changed the type of fabric used, it doesn't insulate you from the cold air, it's not as dense as the previous versions.
We appreciate your feedback and we're sorry to hear this fleece jacket has been a disappointment. You can return it to one of our [Patagonia-owned retail stores in your area](https://www.patagonia.com/store-locator/) or reach out to our Customer Service team. We'll be happy to help with the return and to recommend a different fleece jacket!
Always the best
I continue to order from Patagonia because the quality, wearability and comfort are consistent. The form of this jacket after being worn and laundered is just the same as when it came out of the package knew. Other quality garments begin the same but do not stand up to the test of time.
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